Jinn 2

Is It Allowed To Seek The Assistance Of The Jinn?
Translated by Ahmed Abu Turaab
1 August 2011
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May Allaah give you guys a Ramadaan full of everything He loves, wa sallallaahu alaa Muhammad, aameen. Remember me in your du’aas.

Questioner: Regarding the jinn, there are two questions regarding them, the first is about seeking assistance from them. It is known that amongst the jinn there are disbelievers, sinners [faasiq] and Muslims.

Al-Albani: Yes, by Allaah.

Questioner: So is it permissible for a Muslim, if he is able to, or some things happen [as a result of which] it becomes clear to him that the jinn, for example, is a Muslim, and so he seeks his assistance in some worldly affairs. So is it permissible for a Muslim to use this jinn …, in the same way that I seek the assistance of a human Muslim brother?

Al-Albani: When you mentioned seeking assistance from the Muslim jinn, how do you know he is a Muslim?

Questioner: He says so!

Al-Albani: He says so?

Questioner: Yes.

Al-Albani: And you do not know him [he is unknown].

Questioner: Yes.

Al-Albani: And you do not know him [he is unknown].

Questioner: Yes. Unknown because I do not know him.

Al-Albani: So how do you judge with the testimony of someone unknown?

Questioner: And he, namely, in reality, he is just like one of the brothers.

Al-Albani: No I am asking you, if there were a brother next to you, how do you know if he is a Muslim and a righteous one if you do not know him?

Questioner: I don’t know.

Al-Albani: Thus, the question from its general, initial, onset was wrong. Is it permissible to seek assistance from the jinn or not? The answer is no.

As for categorising the jinn then it can be [done] in two ways. Dividing them in terms of there being amongst them those who are righteous and those who are sinners, believers and disbelievers. This is correct, “There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary; we are groups each having a different way.” [Jinn 72:11]. This is from the angle of there being an unseen reality, something which we do not see.

As for dividing the jinn in terms of their relation to us humans/mankind, then such a division is lost on us. We cannot say, “So and so who speaks to us is a Muslim jinn, or a non-Muslim jinn, or a righteous Muslim jinn … no, we cannot make apparent such judgements. Because this is a judgement about something which is behind–as they say today–nature, i.e., in sharee’ah terminology, the Unseen. We do not know the Unseen.

And at the same time as it not being something legislated, believing someone who is unknown and from the Unseen, is also stupidity. Because if a person who you do not know at all were to come to you and say, ‘I am a trustworthy Muslim. And I want to share with you [in something].’ You would not agree to it, because you don’t know him. So then it is even more fitting that you do not accept the testimony of someone who is behind a wall who says, ‘I am a good, righteous Muslim. And I am going to interact with you from behind this wall based upon the fact that the religion is sincerity.’

Questioner: Yes.

Al-Albani: Would a person accept such a dealing?

Questioner: No.

Al-Albani: So what do you think about [someone] behind a wall, behind all matter [i.e., someone from the Unseen].

Thus, the correct question is: is it permissible to interact with the Jinn at all?’ The answer is that it is not allowed at all.

The only thing that is allowed in that which is connected to Jinn and mankind is that if one were pretty sure that there is a person who has been possessed by a Jinn, then some aayahs can be recited on him, and [the Jinn] can be warned through such recitation … this is what has been established in the Sunnah.

As for the Quraan then it warns us against seeking the assistance of the Jinn [this having been quoted] from the believing Jinns [themselves] who came to the Prophet عليه السلام and believed in him. They spoke about their situation such as saying, ‘And verily, there were men among mankind those who took shelter with the masculine among the jinns, but they (jinns) increased them (mankind) in sin and disbelief,’ [Jinn 72:6] i.e., … in misguidance.

Because of this it is not allowed to seek the assistance of the Jinn. This is the answer to the question. End of Shaikh al-Albaani’s words.

I’ve seen some of the translations that have been put up on the blog have been taken and made into YouTube videos. I happened to chance by some of them. I don’t mind anyone taking such an initiative since I had been hoping someone could do it, may Allaah reward you guys well, whoever you are. At the same time I’d like it if you could send me a link to inform me of such videos. If they’re done well, I can then put up a link to them on the blog here. Shukran.

Al-Hudaa wan-Noor, Tape no. 704, 50th minute approximately.

Mawsoo’atul-Allaamah, al-Imaam, Mujaddidil-Asr, Muhammad Naasirid-Deen al-Albaani, of Shaikh Shady Noaman, vol. 3, pp. 1053-1055.

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The World Of Jinn

By Shaykh Riad Ouarzazi

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SHAYKH RABEE’ IBN HADEE AL-MADKHALEE’S (RAHIMAHULLAH) STORY ABOUT DEVIL’S HE HAS SEEN

Taken from: http://www.rabee. net/show_ fatwa.aspx? id=44

Question number 29:  He (the Shaytaan) surely sees you, he as well as his host, from whence you cannot see them” [Al-âraf 27] Is this inability to see the Shaytan unrestricted , or is it possible for some people to see devils now and then?

Answer: Yes it is possible  to see Shaytan. It has happened in the past as mentioned in the hadeeth about Hurayrah’s (may Allah be pleased with him) story. And the hadeeth about the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), He saw the Shaytan while praying. Furthermore I myself have seen devils.

Once I saw a horse like I’ve never seen before in my entire life. One night my brother and I were traveling and we saw a very strange horse. This horse was in a place where there was no pasture and no people. My brother and I both knew that this horse was a devil. We didn’t want to scare each other, so when we got some distance from the horse, either he or I asked, “Do you know what that horse was?” I think he said, “It was a Gul-a Shaytan.”

And on another occasion while riding in a car I saw a naked man. He wasn’t bald and he didn’t have hair. His outward appearance was very weird looking. Between his arms were two boys. These two boys had big heads and were bald. They were also skinny and with very small legs. Their features were very unusual. Another person and I saw this naked man. We both knew that those people were devils. After driving some distance I asked the man, “What was that?” He said, “They were devils.” I said, “That’s right!”

Many people have seen devils, but in most cases devils aren’t visible. However nowadays there are some people who learn from Muhammad Abdu, a student from Afghanistan. Unfortunately, these people deny the existence of magic, and deny the possibility to see the Jinn. The origins of this believe comes from the Mu’tazeelah who use reason. They judge matters in the religion and life by using intellect.

There isn’t anything that prohibits devils from being seen sometimes. I can definitely say to you that I’ve seen devils.
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Shaykh Muqbil explains that the jinn are allowed to benefit from our gatherings of knowledge subhanAllah.

Shaykh Ibn Baaz:

The Muslims help their brothers among the jinn to obey Allaah and His Messenger just as they help their human brothers. Humans may help them in some matters without realizing it. They may help them to obey Allaah and His Messenger by teaching and reminding other humans, for the jinn may attend the lessons of humans in the mosques and elsewhere and benefit from them. Humans may also hear some things from the jinn which benefit them; they may wake them up to pray or draw their attention to things which may benefit them or harm them. All of this happens even though the jinn do not make themselves visible to humans. A jinn may make himself visible to some people when pointing them towards something good or something evil. This may happen, although it is rare. Usually they do not appear to humans, although their voices may be heard on some occasions when they wake a person for prayer or tell him of some things. In conclusion, the believing jinn help the believers even though the believers may not realize it, and they love everything good for them.

They may attend lessons, and they love to listen to the Quraan and knowledge, as stated above. The believers among the jinn attend the lessons of humans, at some times and in some lands, and they benefit from the lessons of humans. All of this happens and is well known. This has been clearly stated by many of the scholars whom the jinn contacted and asked about some issues; they told them that they had attended their lessons. All of this is well-known, and Allaah is the One Whose help we seek.

كتاب مجموع فتاوى ومقالات متنوعة لسماحة الشيخ العلامة عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز رحمه الله . م/9 ص/373.

11 thoughts on “Jinn 2”

  1. http://www.islam-qa.com

    Question No. 10518: Ruling on seeking the help of the jinn

    Question: Some people, when they want to pray against a person, say, “O jinn, seize him, O ‘ifreet seize him; may seven (jinn) seize you, may they break your back and suck your blood.” What is the ruling on such words?

    Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

    This is shirk, and is a type of seeking the help of the jinn. Some people do this because they have fear of the jinn in their hearts and they are afraid of their power, and because their hearts are devoid of sincere faith and trust in Allaah. So they are content with these illusions and they seek the help of created beings which are not able to bring benefit or ward off harm for themselves, let alone for anyone else.

    When Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about this matter, he said:

    “This is even more abhorrent than associating others in worship with Allaah. We must not do this, we must beware of it, we must advise others not to do it and we must denounce those who do it. If a person is known to commit such actions of shirk, it is not permissible to let him marry a Muslim woman, to eat meat slaughtered by him, to pray over him [the funeral prayer] or to pray behind him, until he announces his repentance to Allaah, which includes devoting his du’aa’ and worship sincerely and purely to Allaah alone.”

    (Iqaamat al-Baraaheen ‘ala Hukm man istaghaatha bi ghayr Allaah, p. 30)

    The Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas has issued a fatwa stating that:

    “seeking the help of the jinn and turning to them to meet one’s needs by harming someone or benefitting him is shirk, because it is a kind of worship directed to someone other than Allaah. It is a kind of benefitting from the jinn to fulfil one’s needs, in return for which the jinn benefits by having the human’s veneration and trust, and being called upon by him to fulfil his desires. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    ‘And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): “O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men,” and their Awliyaa’ (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: “Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us.” He will say: “The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allaah may will. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing.”

    And thus We do make the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) Awliyaa’ (supporters and helpers) of one another (in committing crimes), because of that which they used to earn’ [al-An’aam 6:128-129]

    And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    ‘And verily, there were men among mankind who took shelter with the males among the jinn, but they (jinn) increased them (mankind) in sin and transgression’ [al-Jinn 72:6]

    When a human seeks the help of the jinn, to cause harm to another or to protect him from the evil of one whose evil he fears, all of this is shirk, and whoever is in this state, his prayer and fasting mean nothing. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “If you join others in worship with Allaah, (then) surely, (all) your deeds will be in vain, and you will certainly be among the losers” [al-Zumar 39:65]

    Whoever is known to do such things, cannot be prayed over if he dies, his funeral cannot be attended, and he cannot be buried in the Muslim graveyard.”

    (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/407-408)

    The jaahili (ignorant) nature of their seeking the help of the jinn and putting their trust in them is highlighted in the words of shirk that they utter, such as:

    “By the help of Allaah and you; I am under Allaah’s care and yours; I have no one except Allaah and you; I am Allaah’s slave and yours; I put my trust in Allaah and in you; this is from Allaah and from you; I have Allaah in heaven and you on earth,” etc.

    Undoubtedly these phrases are expressions of shirk, because they make a created being the rival of the Creator. Exalted be our Lord far above that.

    They even call upon Jibreel (peace be upon him) and Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) instead of Allaah, by uttering words of ignorance such as, “O Jibreel, help me,” and “O Muhammad, intercede for me.” And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek.

    Aadaat wa alfaaz tukhaalif Deen Allaah by Dr. Muhammad ibn Sa’eed al-Qahtaani

    Question No.11114:
    Asking the help of the jinn to find out about a sickness

    Question:
    What is the ruling on asking the jinn for help in finding out about the evil eye or magic [i.e., who did it and what type it is], or believing a jinn who is residing in a sick person in what he says about magic and the evil eye, and taking action based on that?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    It is not permissible to seek the help of the jinn in finding about what the problem is and how to treat it, because seeking the help of the jinn is shirk. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And verily, there were men among mankind who took shelter with the males among the jinn, but they (jinn) increased them (mankind) in sin and transgression”

    [al-Jinn 72:6]

    “And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): ‘O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men,’ and their Awliyaa’ (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: ‘Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us.’ He will say: ‘The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allaah may will. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing’”

    [al-An’aam 6:128]

    The meaning of the phrase ‘We benefited one from the other’ is that the men venerated the jinn and submitted to them and sought help from them, and the jinn served them by doing what they wanted and bringing them what they asked for. That includes informing them of the type of sickness and its causes, because the jinn can come to know of things that humans cannot; but they may tell lies, because they cannot be trusted, and it is not permissible to believe them. And Allaah knows best.

    Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Iftaa’

  2. Salaam

    wow mashallah gr8 website. What a way to teach people about all of these things

    Keep up and keep doing these good works

  3. salaam
    Could you be able to have like cases of jinn possesing people. I mean you don’t have to but could you possibly.
    that would be gr8 and more people would want to go onto this gr8 website.

    jazakallah kyair

  4. Wa alaikum as-salam, Bilal Phillip’s book on Exorcist Traditions In Islam has cases of jinn possession. Wa jazakumAllahu khair.

  5. salaam

    my uncle knows a person who. Was forced to marry a witch. He was practically forced not by his parents but by the witch.
    my story
    2 days before Ramadan me and my mum and brother and uncle went. To my cousins house in manchester I live in london and arrived there the next day. I felt a bad pressence and me and my mum were sick but me wasn’t as bad my mum. When we arrived back to london my sister she went there ages ago said there was a witch there and used to proper anoy all the family and cuz my older cousin they slept in the attic and my cousin was putting her back on the wall and the bed is next to the wall and she was on the ground cuz she felt a hard push but not a normal push it was so hard she fell a few feet from her bed. Then my uncle he was going down the stairs he fell and my aunty was like how did you fell he was like cuz some body pushed me and he asked all of the family did you push me and they were like no and I swear they didn’t lie.. My other cousin who’s 2 yrs older than me he has eczema and his room is next to the bathroom. Mistake right? And he woke up and there were long nail scratches all over his body and they weren’t human scratches there were like animals.Then they told the imam from pakistian And they are so luck they have a masjid on their road anyway the imam was like she’s sitting on you bed and my aunty was like who and he said the witch and she got freaked out. Alhhamduliah its gonebut still don’t trust gojng to there house even though its miles away.

  6. Wa alaikum as-salam, encourage the people who live in the house to recite all of Surah Al-Baqarah at least every three days if not every day, ayat al-kursi and the last two ayat of Surah Al-Baqarah.

  7. salaam
    my uncle put this on his phone.
    Bilal philps was talking to this girl on a live chat show and she was saying salaam everything then all over a sudden she was laughing but it was scary. But may allah forgive me I found it a bit funny. Then he started asking questions to her like who are you but it didn’t reply all we heard was a miaw the sound of a cat then when he started to to read the holy Quran it started to cry then the screen went black.
    There is a video and a women who was praying then when she went to sajida instead of going forward her body went back without her moving arms legs. But you couldn’t see her face. But that was a jinn why did it do Salah

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